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hi all , what freq. for 160 wspr . please . I have a drew Diamond Vertical on a big shed.
regards Ron

Mr CRO google up http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ this will tell you all about it.

Hi Ron,

As mentioned there is a list of the freq for all bands on the left hand side of the WSPRnet screen.

The 160m freq is 1.8366 MHz USB

I am running 160m WSPR again, after about 10 months leave. RX only at this stage though.

I am sure I've posted up before a link to a great little world wide lightning map Would anyone happen to know the one im talking about ? Ive not been able to find it on google searches yet.

Thanks.

VK1HW wrote:Weak Signal Propagation Reporter's

how do you make sure that you don't have a bad signal using wspr mode?

Looking at the ALC (nil at my trx) is that enough?

Listen to a second rx?

73
Hauke
VK1HW

Hi Hauke,

I do several things to check on my WSPR signal. First, I keep control over the audio level that I am feeding the transceiver. I do this by adjusting a level pot which is on my home brew interface box, although it is of course possible to use the audio out level control on your computer's mixer. I then watch the RF level and reduce the audio drive until I see a slight reduction in the RF output as indicated by an inline VSWR meter, having set the RF output beforehand. I also listen on another receiver, which I tend to do less nowadays. The ultimate test is really if the distant station hearing your WSPR is able to decode it, which is indicated on the WSPR spots page on WSPR.ORG. The amount of drift you have in your signal is reported on the spotter as well, which is yet another indication of the quality of your signal.

regards,

Ian
VK3YCQ

Hi all,

This may be an interest to Leigh VK2KRR.
Propagation on 160m tonight has been very poor, lots of noise (constant) up to S9+10dB on the guess meter .

The screen captures below show some of the noise (possibly sun/ionospheric disturbance) I got and the effect
it had on signal levels. The first shows the noise on left hand side of display with Leigh's signal down from normal
(normal = -4 to 0dB). The noise subsides for a time and Leigh's signal picks up.

The second one shows noise coming back and Leigh's signal starts to drop again.

Cheers for now.

Hooray! I finally have WSPR working properly! I have v2.11 running, with an OpenHPSDR transceiver.
What complicates things, or simplifies it, depending on your point of view, is that I need to get virtual serial ports and virtual audio cables working, to interface PowerSDR with WSPR (or HRD/DM780, etc.) At last I have WSPR decoding reliably, and sending automatically. I'm just waiting for my WSPRNet login to become active, and I'll be able to report to WSPRNet.
My particular interest is to be able to investigate propagation, and evaluate my 160 m antennas. I have two, a 20 m tall, capacitively loaded vertical radiator over eight 1/4 wave elevated counterpoise radials, and a doublet which is 80 m each side of the feedpoint about 22 m high.
I have reports from VK2KRR and VK6DZ so far.
73,
Luke VK3HJ

Good you have WSPR up and running Luke. All aspects of your signal seem quite good here.

Regarding your observations on the other post, I also noticed that VK3AMZ signal was not decoding here most times. The few that did decode, I observed a timing error up to 2.4 sec. So maybe if Arie could get the timing a bit closer to the 0.0 mark it may help.

So that's what the "DT" is. I figured Arie's clock may have been out, as that was my problem with WSPR previously.
Tonight I will start making some objective tests:
1. Vertical vs Horizontal transmit antenna
2. Receive S/N for transmitting antenna vs receiving array.

So far, knowing that I am being received by VK3, VK2 and VK6 is hardly something I could be excited about.

Lee, I see you have spots from France and Netherlands the past few mornings. What is your transmit antenna system?
Looks like you had the spotlight recently. I'm looking for a reason to light up the amp and call CQ at sunrise.

73
Luke

HI Guys

Finally considered using Dimension 4, for NTP updates, not a fan be we'll see how we go? I'll be txing again tonight on 160mx WSPR let me know if I loose time sync. I know my puta time drifts so we'll now see if the DM4 app. keeps time sync for me.

Cheers

Arie, I only just switched over, but Im still seeing you at -2.3 sec timing error compared to mine. It has decoded though.

Luke, very good regarding the tests, thats one thing WSPR is good for.
Im TX/RX same antenna, 160m 1/2 wave inverted V, suspended from around 60ft.
I guess you could use my spots as an indicator if something is happening.

Arie, FYI its bettered to about -1.8 sec here now.

Arie, last decode at 1422 with -2.3 DT.
I'm still hearing your signal and CW ident. You were still strong here well after sunrise.
Just loaded and am running Dimension4 to keep in time sync.
Will leave running till morning.
I'm getting a generally better S/N from VK6DZ and VK2KRR when I am transmitting on the vertical antenna.
73,
Luke VK3HJ

When first installing D4, don't forget to disable the Windows inbuilt automatic time update feature that usually pings some US based network server, resulting in a few seconds of time delay.

For D4, choose a time server as close to your QTH as possible, to minimise possible timing error. You should then be able to experience digital mode operations without timing error problems. Good luck...

Luke, from around 1926 utc I found your transmission seemed to play up as pictured.

I will come down from 80M which has been interesting but lonely.
Only two windows each day at gray line very few VKs, same guys from N/A every day best dx about 17000k to VE3
EU same grid group around Holland and English channel dont know why.

'STATION.......................................................................
5 watts half wave DELTA Loop strung from 75 feet down to 10 feet.
FTDX3000
eMachines
1 audio lead
no hardware or software interfacing
...................................................................................
Will join ends and line tune to 160M see how it goes.
I see 2M wsppr not so good for some, so holding off buying a radio in case it drifts.
But then tying up a $3000 radio for some is bit dumb.
Sure beats getting piles sitting on ass in chair waiting for DX calls in this shrinking world.

160M 6M why not..

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WSPR LOG from 80M evening
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2014-01-10 09:38 VK3ZAZ 3.594100 -15 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 NN6RF CM87uw 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:14 VK3ZAZ 3.594100 -10 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 NN6RF CM87uw 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:16 NN6RF 3.594070 -23 0 CM87uw +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:34 VK3ZAZ 3.594101 -11 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 NN6RF CM87uw 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:38 NN6RF 3.594071 -23 0 CM87uw +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:48 NN6RF 3.594070 -25 0 CM87uw +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 12895 8013
2014-01-10 10:58 VK3ZAZ 3.594101 -15 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 NN6RF CM87uw 12895 8013
2014-01-10 11:52 VK3ZAZ 3.594100 -17 -1 QF12ag +40 10.000 NN6RF CM87uw 12895 8013

2014-01-10 09:38 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -27 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 10:06 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -21 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 10:14 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -21 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 10:34 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -21 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 10:58 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -22 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 11:20 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -27 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265
2014-01-10 11:52 VK3ZAZ 3.594107 -22 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VA3SK FN06jf 16520 10265



2014-01-10 10:42 VE6PDQ/1 3.594163 -24 0 DO33fl +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 14179 8810
2014-01-10 10:42 VK6XT 3.594181 -4 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390
2014-01-10 11:44 VK6XT 3.594181 +8 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390

PACIFIC
2014-01-10 10:40 NH7SR 3.594120 -27 0 BL11ch +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 9086 5646
2014-01-10 10:42 NH7SR 3.594120 -28 0 BL11ch +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 9086 5646
2014-01-09 17:00 VK3ZAZ 3.594102 -21 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 NH7SR BL11ch 9086 5646

MORNING

2014-01-09 19:48 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -25 0 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 19:42 VK3ZAZ 3.594101 +2 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VK6XT OF86td 2237 1390
2014-01-09 19:38 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -24 0 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 19:36 VK6XT 3.594183 +9 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390
2014-01-09 19:28 OH8GKP 3.594146 -24 0 KP24rt +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 14987 9312
2014-01-09 19:26 GM4SFW 3.594052 -26 0 IO77sn +33 1.995 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 16733 10397
2014-01-09 19:26 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -23 0 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 19:20 GM4SFW 3.594052 -27 0 IO77sn +33 1.995 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 16733 10397
2014-01-09 19:08 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -24 1 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 19:04 OH8GKP 3.594146 -25 0 KP24rt +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 14987 9312
2014-01-09 19:02 VK3ZAZ 3.594101 +10 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VK6XT OF86td 2237 1390
2014-01-09 18:32 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -25 1 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 18:30 OH8GKP 3.594146 -25 0 KP24rt +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 14987 9312
2014-01-09 18:22 VK6XT 3.594182 +12 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390
2014-01-09 18:14 OH8GKP 3.594146 -27 0 KP24rt +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 14987 9312
2014-01-09 18:10 VK6XT 3.594183 +12 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390
2014-01-09 18:00 VK3ZAZ 3.594096 -22 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 LA3JJ JO59bh 15872 9862
2014-01-09 17:42 DO3WBL 3.594032 -26 0 JO53ff +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15962 9918
2014-01-09 17:38 VK3ZAZ 3.594099 -21 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 IQ3AZ JN65qq 15739 9780
2014-01-09 17:38 VK3ZAZ 3.594096 -24 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 LA3JJ JO59bh 15872 9862
2014-01-09 17:36 IQ3AZ 3.594104 -26 1 JN65qq +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 15739 9780
2014-01-09 17:22 VK6XT 3.594182 +11 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390
2014-01-09 17:20 VK3ZAZ 3.594099 -24 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 IQ3AZ JN65qq 15739 9780
2014-01-09 17:20 VK3ZAZ 3.594096 -23 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 LA3JJ JO59bh 15872 9862
2014-01-09 17:02 VK1KF 3.594100 +8 0 QF44mr +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 683 424

2014-01-09 17:00 VK3ZAZ 3.594096 -25 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 LA3JJ JO59bh 15872 9862
2014-01-09 17:00 VK3ZAZ 3.594103 +10 0 QF12ag +40 10.000 VK1KF QF44mr 683 424
2014-01-09 16:22 VK1KF 3.594100 +2 0 QF44mr +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 683 424
2014-01-09 16:22 VK6XT 3.594181 +7 0 OF86td +37 5.012 VK3ZAZ QF12ag 2237 1390

VK2KRR wrote:Luke, from around 1926 utc I found your transmission seemed to play up as pictured.

Thanks for the advice Lee.
Not sure what was happening there. Sounded like a loose connection when I tested it. But there are no 'wires' as PowerSDR is connected to WSPR via 'virtual cables'. I restarted WSPR - no change. The 'Tune' button in PowerSDR gave a clean tone. I restarted both WSPR and PowerSDR and it was back to normal. A software problem.
Rather than look for spots from DX on WSPR, I will start getting up at dawn and call CW. Was up too late last night messing about with WSPR. Only DX worked was one JA and KH0 last evening.
Now that I have WSPR working, I expect I may be able to use the other JT modes too.
I still prefer CW for two way DX.
73,
Luke VK3HJ

Hey Guys

Timing looks better....more consistent. Tx again tonight 160mx WSPR......

73's

You're strong here on my 80m mobile whip Arie. Good to see Leigh is hearing me too Antenna is a 25yo Mobile One 80m whip I bought from DSE a loooong time ago. NH7SR is also hearing me on 80m with it.

For time server, I use: 1.au.pool.ntp.org

There are several "pools", you can change by changing the first number, e.g. 1.au... to 0.au... or 2.au...

For Win7,time sync, I use BktTimeSync by IZ2BKT. He does a few other bits of Ham software, but I've found this one most reliable in Win7.


Arie, on your last TX your signal seems to be being affect by AE. Low level Doppler shifted sigs and lots of flutter. I didn't expect to see that on 160m!

Thanks Al.....

Was an interesting session last night an here's example of signals decoded:

1058 5 -1.1 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1126 -3 -0.5 1.838047 1 VK5AKK PF94 40
1138 9 -2.4 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1140 -4 -0.6 1.838047 0 VK5AKK PF94 40
1154 -5 -1.7 1.838047 0 VK5AKK PF94 40
1154 9 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1206 9 -2.1 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1222 -8 -2.2 1.838047 0 VK5AKK PF94 40
1236 10 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1244 -28 -1.7 1.838061 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1248 8 -0.9 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1304 -26 -2.2 1.838061 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1314 11 -1.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1316 -24 -1.7 1.838061 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1318 -29 -1.9 1.838099 0 VK3DXE QF21 37
1326 -25 -1.9 1.838099 0 VK3DXE QF21 37
1332 -6 -0.9 1.838095 0 VK5ZRL PF95 37
1334 -29 -1.8 1.838099 -1 VK3DXE QF21 37
1338 -26 -1.6 1.838099 0 VK3DXE QF21 37
1412 -22 -2.0 1.838060 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1416 12 -0.8 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1420 -2 -0.4 1.838095 0 VK5ZRL PF95 37
1422 -22 -0.8 1.838060 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1430 11 -1.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1432 -23 -0.8 1.838059 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1436 -2 -1.8 1.838095 0 VK5ZRL PF95 37
1442 11 -1.1 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1446 -27 -1.6 1.838099 0 VK3DXE QF21 50
1450 -17 -1.1 1.838059 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1454 11 -2.3 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1458 -27 -2.1 1.838099 0 VK3DXE QF21 33
1502 -18 -1.1 1.838059 -1 VK6DZ OF84 37
1514 -16 -1.0 1.838058 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1528 1 -2.0 1.838095 0 VK5ZRL PF95 37
1542 -15 -1.2 1.838058 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1550 -15 -1.3 1.838057 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1610 -14 -2.2 1.838057 -1 VK6DZ OF84 37
1618 12 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1622 -13 -1.0 1.838057 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1642 -11 -2.3 1.838056 -1 VK6DZ OF84 37
1650 -13 -2.3 1.838055 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1700 -19 -0.8 1.838055 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1700 12 -0.8 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1710 -12 -0.7 1.838055 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1714 12 -1.2 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1734 -11 -0.9 1.838055 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1740 12 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1750 -17 -2.0 1.838054 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1750 11 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1758 -8 -2.1 1.838054 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1802 11 -1.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1816 12 -1.4 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1820 -28 -0.3 1.838069 0 PA0PVW JO22 40
1832 12 -2.3 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1836 -28 -0.7 1.838069 0 PA0PVW JO22 40
1840 -9 -1.1 1.838052 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1848 12 -1.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1852 -9 -0.7 1.838053 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1900 13 -0.7 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1904 -7 -0.7 1.838052 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1910 12 -0.7 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1912 -28 -0.8 1.838098 0 DC0DX JO31 27
1914 -25 -0.7 1.838173 0 RX3DHR KO94 37
1920 -19 -2.0 1.838101 0 SM6WZI JO67 37
1920 -26 -1.7 1.838136 0 G4BOO IO91 37
1922 12 -2.0 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1926 -16 -0.8 1.838052 0 VK6DZ OF84 37
1938 9 -0.8 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43
1950 11 -0.7 1.838102 0 VK2KRR QF34 43

A couple of EU stns in there, DC0DX running 0.5W!

So far DM4 is working....but I'll take up the challenge wid the other apps if it plays up again.....

Cheers