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FT8 version 2 is coming

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Hello,
some of you may not know but there is to be a NEW release of the WSJT-X software in Dec 2018 that will include new version of the FT8 and MSK modes that are NOT backward compatible with the current FT8 and MSK144.

The big hit will be the new FT8 version 2 which has a longer transmitted payload (77 bits versus the old 72 bit) which is there to accommodate some of the longer and compound callsigns and contest formats.

Please Please Please :om: go and have a read about version 2 of WSJT-X on the authors web site: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and scroll down to the part of the page that talks about "WSJT-X version 2" as after mid December you may find you do not decode a lot of the new traffic on the FT8 sub bands once version 2 takes off.

The latest current 'gold' release of WSJT-X is 1.91 which is in use world wide, those of you using JTDX and MSHV for FT8 and MSK144 will find yourself out of step with those early adopters of version 2 of WSJT-x during December and may need to look at your options.

There are already beta testers of the new version 2 ( Release Candidate 4 ) out there on FT8 and they are trying to stick above 2,000 Hz in the baseband audio. I have been running it for a few weeks on HF only FT8 and does some new funky things, some I like and some not so good LOL.

Anyway, please do not say you were not told : -)
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I bet there will be some confusion on the VK-SA path this summer. JT65, FT8 and FT8 version 2.
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thanks for the heads up Peter! :thumbup:
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Negotiation on R2 is probably the best solution.
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https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html

"The current General Availability (GA) release is WSJT-X 2.0.0

The FT8 and MSK144 protocols have been enhanced in a way that is not backward compatible with older program versions. The new protocols become the world-wide standards starting on December 10, 2018, and all users should upgrade to WSJT-X 2.0 by January 1, 2019. After that date, only the new FT8 and MSK144 should be used on the air
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Thanks for the reminder - I had completely forgotten.

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From the release notes:

"7. The UDP messages sent to companion programs have been expanded and
improved."


I wonder whether the 'companion' programs will also need to be updated. It would seem logical.
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CQ wsjt experts:::

Please tell me what i should do.

I am not an expert in this stuff, my 2 pieces of wire attached to a 1932 1/4 inch phono plug works really well on BCDA mode and has done so for over 40 years.

Should i upgrade to version 2 now or later?

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Upgrade NOW Graham! By the end of the year, everyone will/should be on WSJTx v2.0.
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Hi Andy
Thanks for the test version 2 working fine on my Pi
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FB Ken! I was initially using the 2nd tab and couldn't figure out how to do RR73 .....then I read the notes!! :oops:
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VK6AKT wrote:Hi Andy
Thanks for the test version 2 working fine on my Pi
Ken
Hi Ken where did you find ver2 for the PI? please
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I now have both versions running ( Separately ) 1.8 and 2.0

How many people have changed over ???
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Version 2.0 for the Pi can be downloaded from

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html

Look for the Raspbian Stretch ARMv6 file .
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Okay, so USA time, 10th of Dec, WSJT-X 2.0 was made available, the majority of the earlier bugs seem to have been killed off....

You NEED to read the release notes FIRST, please do not ask questions unless you have read them, there are a few prerequisites like an extra package for SSL that has to be put in place on your PC and a Microsoft C++ run time package.. its all in the release notes, PLEASE read them.

Version 2.0 user guide is here: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1j ... tml#SYSREQ

The DEV team want everyone to move to version 2.0 by 1st Jan 2019 so get a wiggle on people.

Yes there will be some mayhem and havic with stragglers who resist change and all I can say to them is :crazy:
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It is free.

It is not hard.

Why on earth would you not just upgrade?

I had an issue with the SSL but the manual instructions got it going. So read the release notes and guides. We are supposed to be intelligent technical folk, so it ain't that hard.
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Following is a list of VK3 call signs heard using new FT8 version v2.0.0 so far:

VK3HY VK3ART VK3ATQ VK3KTT VK3BE VK3ZYC VK3BD VK3BWM VK3DUT VK3ALZ VK3FZ VK3MH :clap: :clap:

Still a few stations heard using old version today but can't tell who they are??

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Has anyone compiled and run it up on a Raspberry Pi yet?

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Yes loaded it on Raspberry Pi works well.

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Just how doe's one install onto this stupid linux. It has to be the most newbie un friendly piece of crap . the wondoze people are so much smarter they have a system that tells you where it put it :).

Ok some sort of black magic happened I started wsjt-x and it is now version 2 please excuse the ramblings of a tired old man
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