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Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:00 pm
by VK4KL
Not sure if this is the right place to put this
I am receiving a signal on 471mhz sounds like telemetry and after much research, in fact about 2 minutes, I discovered that it is possible that it may be telemetry from the town water supply monitoring system. But I don't want to leave it at that I would like to decode what's being transmitted even if it's only once. Any ideas what software I could use to decode? I have tried Fldigi but all I get is garbage on screen, but maybe that's all I will get anyway
Adrian
Re: Telemetry on 471mhz
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:39 pm
by VK3AP
Do an ACMA database search on the exact frequency and area. Do you live close to a golf course? They use a lot of telemetry for watering systems, typically the Toro and Rainbird systems. Pretty easy to track.
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Re: Telemetry on 471mhz
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:56 pm
by VK4OX
Hi Adrian,
From one Adrian to another, I suppose you mean telemetry on 471MHz. The unit for Frequency is Hz, named after Mr. Heinrich Hertz.. All units named after people have an upper case first letter. The prefix for Mega is a upper case "M". The prefix for milli is lower case "m". So 471mHz is 0.471 hertz.
All this info is on the web:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... m_of_Units
73, Adrian, VK4OX.
(c/o Pedant's Corner)
Re: Telemetry on 471mhz
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:17 pm
by VK4KL
OK stand corrected post was sent from my iPhone which didn't autocorrect for the first time. MHz not mhz
I live about 1km as the crow flies from the town water tank signal is strong
Adrian
Re: Telemetry on 471mhz
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:36 am
by VK5PJ
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:30 am
by VK2JDH
VK4KL wrote:Not sure if this is the right place to put this
I am receiving a signal on 471mhz sounds like telemetry and after much research, in fact about 2 minutes, I discovered that it is possible that it may be telemetry from the town water supply monitoring system. But I don't want to leave it at that I would like to decode what's being transmitted even if it's only once. Any ideas what software I could use to decode? I have tried Fldigi but all I get is garbage on screen, but maybe that's all I will get anyway
Adrian
Quite possibly BELL 300bps or 1200bps FSK modulation
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:27 pm
by VK4TIM
This could also be low powered devices like crane controllers, as well as telemetry.
There is provision for licenced 10mW controllers and up to 5W for telemetry. I have seen plenty of gear, typically 1200bd using Bell 202 tones or similar running things like river/water level sensors, often using the 5W Maxon data radios.
To decode, you could try some of the Amateur software.
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:58 pm
by VK4KL
I have tried all modes in FlDigi with no luck just garbage on the screen but like I said it's probably all I will get
Adrian
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:59 am
by VK2EM
Adrian
A few questions...
Is it a continuous signal?
Does it come in bursts (packets)?
If it is in bursts, did you try decoding with Pocsag (IIRC)? It could be a paging system signals, or similar...
see here...
http://www.discriminator.nl/pdw/index-en.html
73 Bruce VK2EM
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:24 am
by VK4KL
Sample of telemetry
Comes in bursts sometimes 1 every 60 seconds or so sometimes 2-3 every 5 seconds
Sometimes I can hear a second burst but from a repeater(?) much lower in strength.
will have a look at other software to try decoding
Adrian
Re: Telemetry on 471 MHz
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:08 am
by VK2JDH
VK4KL wrote:Sample of telemetry
Comes in bursts sometimes 1 every 60 seconds or so sometimes 2-3 every 5 seconds
Sometimes I can hear a second burst but from a repeater(?) much lower in strength.
will have a look at other software to try decoding
Adrian
I seem to recall for the deep dark past the some of those systems used a standard packet TNC