Interesting signals last week end

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Interesting signals last week end

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On late afternoon and evening on Sunday I heard several weak VK3 signals that had very raspy sounds (one sounded like Darth Vader :D ), distortion, and rapid flutter. This is characteristic of auroral backscatter and would be commonplace during auroral activity in VK3 and VK7, but I have never heard it this far north.

Unfortunately I could not read any callsigns and my calls went unanswered. :(

There were some E openings to VK3 on that day and my thoughts were that this was auroral backscatter extended north by Es. Anyone like to comment?

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Re: Interesting signals last week end

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Which band/frequency, Wayne? I heard some people talking, who were unintelligible on Sunday evening/night (I think on 40). They were unintelligible, sounding distorted, until I realised that they were on the 'other' sideband to 'normal'.

Then I was able to understand them somewhat... albeit, they were very weak... and distorted... (VK3's maybe?).

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Bruce VK2EM
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Hi Bruce

6m. One was calling CQ on 50.110. Another was in a QSO on about 50.6. They had all the characteristics of auroral scatter which I am quite familiar with having operated from VK7 and VK3. I was very suprised to hear these sigs in Townsville. I think the most northerly station I worked on auroral backscatter from Hobart (i.e beaming south and reflecting the signal north) was Bendigo, and Wagga Wagga from Melbourne.

Auroral effects are not just confined to VHF you can get some very peculiar things happening on HF as well.

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Re: Interesting signals last week end

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Hi Wayne

Quite a few vk4's that I was in contact with on 6m were reporting the strange noise on sigs from vk5 and vk3 that sounded like aural growl/buzz.
At the time there was no aurora and no au type growl here.Certainly strange,it must have been some sort of atmospheric disturbance to the north of here.

Anyway interesting,
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Auroral propagation is strange and does not depend of a having a visible aurora. I remember times in Hobart where we could not seen anything in the sky and there was good reflection. Other times when the aurora was very strong and reached to almost overhead, there was little or no effect. Sometimes the sigs appeared to come straight down with no directional effect from the antenna. I really miss those days!

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Hi Wayne, looking at the graph traces for Auroral Activity Index on my Ionoprobe software, the index was hovering between 5 and 8 (out of 10) last Sunday so it is very possible it was auroral, probably mixed with some other propagation method as you mentioned.

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It was the Daleks.
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Yep, they were saying "exterminate, exterminate" but I thought they were "full calls" saying what should be done with "F calls." (Relax guys, its a joke :D )

So I missed an opportunity to do what SETI has been unable to to do - confirm the existence of extra-terrestials :cry:

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Another was in a QSO on about 50.6
A touch out of band for the east coast :wink:
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Daleks have a different band plan! :D
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On reflectionion it was probably 50.16. :oops:
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Bruce,

There are a couple of VK2's that have been regularly using USB on 40m. I think they do it just to prove they can and cause just a wee bit of controversy.

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VK2VHF wrote:Bruce,

There are a couple of VK2's that have been regularly using USB on 40m. I think they do it just to prove they can and cause just a wee bit of controversy.

Adrian
For some digital modes you need to use USB. Keep that in mind if you hear stations on USB, such as on 80M on Mon evenings originating out of VK2. Our nets are a mixture of digital and voice. Naturally we don't switch LSB > USB when we go from digital to voice.

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Hi Compton,

Yes I am aware of the need to use USB on some digi modes though the fellows I hear are using "rag chew" mode.

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VK2VHF wrote:Bruce,

There are a couple of VK2's that have been regularly using USB on 40m. I think they do it just to prove they can and cause just a wee bit of controversy.

Adrian
Some 'Land Mobile' (ex-RFDS etc.,commercial-type) transceivers which are easily set up for Amateur Band use are Upper Side Band only.

You may be hearing such a device.
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