Any Thoughts

[VK5BC]

After and interest afternoon of when the 6m band appeared to open over most of VK I received an Email from Davide IW9HII. It appears Davide heard me. At the time he says he heard me (0706utc) I was calling beaming towards NW VK6 as I was hearing the Dampier VK6RSX beacon (559) which would have been near enough to Davide's direction. At the same time on 50.110 VK4ZJB was calling me & I was hearing VK6KXW calling CQ in CW (599) as well as weak SBB signal which I could not identify. At 0708utc I turned the beam to VK4 and completed a short contact with VK4ZJB. In checking QRZ it appears Davide is a regular 6m operator who has worked over 100 countries, he is also regularly spotted on DX clusters on 6m.

Although no contact was made, It would be nice to think that Davide did hear me and there appears no reason to doubt it, things seems to add up, time, frequency, unusual band conditions with band appearing to be open over most of VK including NW VK6. Any thoughts?

73 Brian
VK5BC

ps - it was probably the best winter opening in VK5 this season with the band open to VK2, 3, 4, 6 & 7 over a couple hour period.




50110 (Davide's last message)


-------Messaggio originale-------

Da: Brian CLELAND
Data: 27/07/2012 15.09.23
A: iw9hii@alice.it
Oggetto: *** SPAM ***Re: Re: Re: Re: IW9HII

Please what frequency?

Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: iw9hii@alice.it
To: briancleland@bigpond.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:36 PM
Subject: Rif: Re: Re: Re: IW9HII



I've only heard your station with much QSB
will next time on 6m

73 de IW9HII


-------Messaggio originale-------

Da: Brian CLELAND
Data: 27/07/2012 14.55.30
A: iw9hii@alice.it
Oggetto: *** SPAM ***Re: Re: Re: IW9HII

Hi Davide

What frequency did you hear me on and did you hear any other VK stations?

73 Brian
VK5BC
----- Original Message -----
From: iw9hii@alice.it
To: briancleland@bigpond.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: Rif: Re: Re: IW9HII


Hi Brian

I have no problem to put the QSOs in the log, after all we are talking about the magic band where propagation is strange
tell me what to do in the log or not in log?

73 Davide



-------Messaggio originale-------

Da: Brian CLELAND
Data: 27/07/2012 12.49.02
A: iw9hii@alice.it
Oggetto: *** SPAM ***Re: Re: IW9HII

Hi Davide

I cannot tell you whether you can log, only you know what you heard. All can say is that I was definately calling at the time you reported and was beaming in your general direction. Being 6m anything is possible but there will be the usual sceptics, only wish I had heard you. I was running 200w and using a home brew 6el YU7EF design yagi approx 16.5m high.

73 Brian
VK5BC
----- Original Message -----
From: iw9hii@alice.it
To: briancleland@bigpond.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:10 PM
Subject: Rif: Re: IW9HII


Hi Brian
I your signal much QSB but copied the call
Signal 3/1 I QSB we call, you did not feel well my call for VK stations
Can I log in?

73 de IW9HII Davide




-------Messaggio originale-------

Da: Brian CLELAND
Data: 27/07/2012 10.05.24
A: iw9hii@alice.it
Oggetto: *** SPAM ***Re: IW9HII

H Davide

Did you hear my signal, if so what was the report. At the time I was looking towards NW VK6 and calling, roughly your direction. I did hear some stations, a VK4 calling me, and a VK6 calling on cw, there were other unidentified weak SSB stations in there as well.

73 Brian
VK5BC
----- Original Message -----
From: iw9hii@alice.it
To: briancleland@bigpond.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 4:56 PM
Subject: IW9HII


Hi confirm my call on 27/07/2012 utc 07:06 band 6m mode SSB your signal qsb ok?

73 de IW9HII Davide

[VK5PJ]

Brian,
considering that VK worked the mirror path to this in our summer towards the USA (northern winter) there is every possibility we would do the same towards Europe in our winter while their summer season was in full flight. Its great you documented all of the conditions around you and the appearance of vk6rsx into the mix only enhances the credability of the report. The challenge for VK is for there to be stations on when it happens for us in what is ususally a quiet time, looks like the sun has some kick left in it yet!

Of course this now throws a different light onto the ZL that was reported in Russia a few months ago

regards,
Peter, vk5pj

[VK2KRR]

Brian,

My thoughts are that after reading your data given, it would be quite possible. Cant see any reason why it wouldn't be correct.

[VK4ABW]

I heard a Ukraine station at 2am last cycle...yes at 2AM after the long path dropped out from South America. But, i have also had a few 'bogus' stations claim to have heard me on days that i was not active.

Brian, the 49ers were in yesterday but they we very weak in the afternoon and only reached S7 during last night. no 48mhz.
Anything is possible on 50mhz....

de Gary
VK8AW / VK4ABW

[VK5BC]

Brian, the 49ers were in yesterday but they we very weak in the afternoon and only reached S7 during last night. no 48mhz.
Anything is possible on 50mhz....

de Gary
VK8AW / VK4ABW

Thanks for that Gary, I was also hearing 49ers at the time, all be it weakly.

73 Brian
VK5BC

[VK2KRR]

May or may not be relevant Brian, but fyi last night I was able to get 15m WSPR signal from Jorgen OZ7IT almost ALL night till 1830 UTC in the morning. Thats not normal.

[VK3ZAZ]

Welcome to the club..
Read my article close shave or near miss
No one believed in the 1988 OH2 SWL report
except VK6KXW/VK6ZDY, who became the first VK to work EU.
For an swl report to be of any use,
conditions should be reproducable,
they are not ..yet!
Conditions to the east however are very reproduceable


Still nothing from North West as of OCTOBER 2012 any time now is the window.

Except for the EA8 to ZL1 and VK4DDC nothing over 16000 KM from VK this cycle...

[VK2XQ]

50MHz is much akin to Lotto I think Steve, you have to be in it to win it, and sometimes you come so close...

Don't forget the old DXers adage: [b]"If you cannot hear them, you cannot work them."[/b]

Very little XE was noted here in the 2011/2012 summer season, I remember the last cycle when XE1KK beacon would be chugging away just after daylight on 50.023MHz and Kerry ZL2TPY would have it for hours on end from his daylight onwards.

This current cycle doesn't have the clout of the last, it's been a fizzer when you compare. The elusive path to EU this year?

Someone mentioned "lack of propagation to the Pacific Islands this season", well, I can assure most that the path is there but it's just a lack of resident 50MHz operators. Also the Pacific beacon network has fallen by the wayside too. When I was resident op in T30, V63, C21 etc there was always something about 50MHz at one time or another, one of the benefits of being on the equator or near to it.

As most diehard 50MHz ops know and will tell you, if you don't put in the hard yards here you will not reap the benefits...Jack Haden VK2XQ/VU (MM-71) Amritsar, India

[VK3ZAZ]

Proof of the pudding is submitting the report to the peer group in this case six Italy.
There is ZERO in this direction from that Path...
We arent even close
Best dx so far as listed in EUROPEAN reports...


Apart from PROPAGATION Missing we also lack VK8s in PG66 and VK6s in Pilbara regions
apart from VK6RSX beacon e have ZIP NO TV and very few beacons worth their salt.

As for this 100 watt beacon solution

VK3RMV 100 watts erp not being heard much at all, waste of time and space,..not to mention power useage..5 kw per day $800 per year $88,000 per cycle.




2012
VK4DDC QG62 to EA8 no details or distance
ZL1RS RF64VS EA8CK IL18UM 2012-03-11 22:34:00 CW 18794
Any others?
VK3ZAZ QF02WH K4MM EL97TG 2012-01-23 22:40:00 CW 15926
IZ8DWF JM87AW CE2/VE7SV FF47FA 2012-05-23 20:21:00 CW 11986

2011
VK3ZAZ QF02WH K9HMB EN52RL 2011-01-11 00:50:00 SSB 15746
ZL1RS RF64VS K9HMB EN52RL 2011-01-11 00:38:00 CW 13115
IK0FTA JN61GV VP8NO GD18BH 2011-04-15 16:55:00 SSB 12409

2010
IK2GSO JN45NP OA4TT FH16TW 2010-06-24 21:55:00 SSB 10699
EA6SX JM19IK JH0RNN PM97NV 2010-06-20 07:42:00 CW 10333
IT9FGA JM67XC JA3EGE PM74OV 2010-06-05 16:24:00 CW 9964

2009
S57RR JN65UM OA4TT FH16TW 2009-05-25 19:46:00 CW 11039
IK5MEN JN53CX OA4TT FH16TW 2009-05-25 20:17:00 CW 10736
IZ1MYT JN43AV K5WPN EM14AM 2009-06-26 22:55:00 SSB 8528

2004

IW9CER JM78QF 09/07/04 15.27 W5OZI CW EM00CL 9863 KM
EH7KW IM67XI 21/03/04 11.45 3B9C CW MH10 9580 KM
IK2GSO JN45NP 05/04/04 11.28 3B9C CW MH10 9030 KM


2003 TOP 3
EH7KW IM67XI 11/03/03 20.09 ZL2TPY SSB RF70BW 19814 KM
VK9XI OH29UO 14/04/03 13.54 EH7KW CW IM67XI 12628 KM
IK2GSO JN45NP 28/04/03 16.14 LU7WW SSB FE77LF 12232 KM

2002



2001 TOP Dxers @ WW

EH7KW IM67XI 03/04/01 20.02 ZL3VTV/1 SSB RF73KD 19915 KM
PY5CC GG54RE 18/02/01 01.32 7J6CCU SSB PL36VI 19659 KM
EH7CD IM86RQ 04/04/01 04.48 ZL4AAA SSB RF65SA 19620 KM
VR2XMT OL72BM 24/04/01 13.31 LU2NI SSB FG72UF 19403 KM
HP2CWB FJ09BI 13/04/01 02.23 YC1MH SSB OI33JH 19241 KM
F5LNU JN04JV 08/11/01 09.46 ZL2TPY SSB RF70BW 19161 KM
VR2DXA OL72BM 05/11/01 02.10 OA6/N6XQ SSB FH43FO 19115 KM
CE0Y/W7XU DG52GU 05/04/01 14.13 A45XR CW LL93EN 18742 KM
ZL3TY RE57OM 13/11/01 08.44 I2YSB CW JN45IF 18583 KM
IK5RLP JN52LR 07/11/01 08.47 ZL2TPY SSB RF70BW 18548 KM
IK2GSO JN45NP 13/11/01 08.39 ZL3TY CW RE57OM 18545 KM
FR1GZ LG79RD 17/11/01 17.40 N6XQ SSB DM12KR 18503 KM
YV1DIG FK60ML 22/03/01 17.02 YB5QZ CW OJ00RM 18254 KM
PP2RON GH53JH 11/10/01 03.27 VR2XMT SSB OL72BM 18168 KM
9G5AN IJ95IC 01/11/01 07.31 V73AT CW RJ38UR 18060 KM
VK4CP/4 QH30HT 23/10/01 08.13 EH8BPX SSB IL18SK 18023 KM
SP6GWB JO80HK 09/11/01 07.45 ZL3TY CW RE57OM 17887 KM
IT9RZR JM76MV 08/04/01 20.58 KH8/N5OLS CW AH45DQ 17416 KM
I0WTD JN61GU 08/04/01 21.22 KH8/N5OLS CW AH45DQ 16925 KM
VK3OT QF12AG 11/12/01 08.59 G3FPQ CW IO91LL 16758 KM
VK3OT QF12AG 04/04/01 22.14 V29JKV CW FK97BC 16748 KM
JY9NX KM71WW 05/04/01 21.28 CE0Y/W7XU CW DG52GU 16641 KM
KB6NAN (sk) CM87UF 02/11/01 09.36 Z22JE SSB KH52 16613 KM
9A4DA JN86FJ 07/04/01 21.20 KH8/N5OLS CW AH45DQ 16368 KM
PA4PA JO22QD 11/12/01 09.59 VK3SIX CW QF02WH 16295 KM



2000 TOP DXers Short Path

EH7KW IM67XI 29/03/00 20.26 ZL2TPY SSB RF70BW 19814 KM
HK3YH FJ24XR 09/04/00 1.59 YF1OO CW OI33LU 19770 KM
EH7CD IM86RQ 02/04/00 20.51 ZL2AAA SSB RF80JJ 19679 KM
PY5CC GG54RE 18/03/00 15.42 7J6CCU SSB PL36VI 19659 KM
FY/W7XU GJ35PE 30/10/00 12.25 VK8MS CW PH57KM 19113 KM
VR2XMT OL72BM 12/04/00 13.48 ZP6CW SSB GG14KO 19083 KM
VK2BA QF69JQ 05/04/00 23.39 EH8BPX SSB IL18SK 18962 KM
CT3HF IM12OP 02/04/00 22.03 VK4CP SSB QG62LK 18886 KM
YJ0DX RH42CN 14/10/00 21.21 XT2OW CW IK92FI 18771 KM
LU2EG GF05XD 10/03/00 14.24 JP1OKW SSB PM95UK 18399 KM
4X1RF KM72LT 21/03/00 21.37 VP6BR CW CG45 18374 KM
PP1CZ GG99UQ 13/03/00 02.28 HL5XF CW PM45 18029 KM
VK8OT PG66 09/04/00 00.29 YV5LIX SSB FK68 17757 KM
8R1/W7XU GJ06WT 03/11/00 16.13 VK9CK CW NH87 17240 KM

[VK4ABW]

You missed 1. VK8 - TI2 this year. >16,000K.
The EU path is getting close. Indicators moving further west as each week goes by. Mostly Middle East now...very little of 49ers about.
Stay tuned

Gary
VK8AW