Echolink

[VK2AAH]

Nik it depends on the application & my workload... I can turn them around in a few days to a few weeks. I was brought on board to resolve the delays you refer to & I'm pretty sure I have. I also normally email the applicant when I receive the application & they get a copy of the submitted application when it is sent. There will always be the odd one that takes longer due to issues with the application, but not through any delays on the WIA's part.

Delays in ACMA are currently running at about 2-3 MONTHS... unfortunately there isn't much we can do about that.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

[VK3MIX]

Yes it does have to go through the WIA.

And you need to submit a call-sign request... you need to get that from the WIA office or someone here might have a blank copy (I don't)... Mal at the office will then forward the call-sign allocation to me & I will do the rest... it isn't a hard process. All up it will cost you $96 ($76 to ACMA, $20 for the call-sign).

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

Not sure if there is but it would be good if there were a page on the WIA website explaining this process with links to the required documents.

[VK4UQ]

Think you will find the information here : http://www.wia.org.au/members/tac/repeaterlicence

[VK3MIX]

Think you will find the information here : http://www.wia.org.au/members/tac/repeaterlicence

There is nothing on there about submitting a callsign request? I would assume that is optional and we can be assigned whatever is free.

[VK2AAH]

If you already have an "R" license extra services can be added under that. If you just have a regular amateur license you will need to apply for a call-sign for the new service, and the fee for that is $20 which covers the administration costs of providing the service on behalf of ACMA.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

[VK3BA]

Nik it depends on the application & my workload... I can turn them around in a few days to a few weeks. I was brought on board to resolve the delays you refer to & I'm pretty sure I have. I also normally email the applicant when I receive the application & they get a copy of the submitted application when it is sent. There will always be the odd one that takes longer due to issues with the application, but not through any delays on the WIA's part.

Delays in ACMA are currently running at about 2-3 MONTHS... unfortunately there isn't much we can do about that.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

72hours to apply, pay for and issue an Outpost Licence this week - no delays at the ACMA this week. All via email and without a spoken word of follow-up required. It was a similar turnaround time a couple of years ago for a similar licence as well. A couple of other things were sorted out with the ACMA inside a day this week as well. This is the usual level of service I've become used to from the ACMA in recent years.

Cheers,

[VK2OMD]

72hours to apply, pay for and issue an Outpost Licence this week - no delays at the ACMA this week. All via email and without a spoken word of follow-up required....

My last amateur licence issue took just over 6 weeks for the whole process, and did require follow up to get the correct street address shown on the licence (which they were less than graceful about).

From comments you see, I don't think my experience was atypically long. Since the 'improvements' in the process for amateur call signs where peices of paper are snail mailed back via the applicant, thinks seem to be highly variable, but longer than my previous experience.

Owen

[VK2AAH]

Hi Nik,

Your transaction did not involve an ACMA assigner... the delays are still impacting on amateur repeater applications because they need to pass through an assigner before passing to the admin folk who process the payment.

I was told last night that there is a pile of paperwork at the WIA office for me to process. I will get these after the WIA conference so please give me a couple of weeks... I will keep applicants informed when I receive them.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

[VK2TS]

Hi Guys

Just a reminder that an Advanced or Standard licensee can operate a IRLP/Echolink node without an additional license:

As per section 9 of the the LCD which states:

9 Control of equipment at an amateur station

(1) The licensee must ensure that an amateur station is operated at all times by a

qualified operator or qualified person in attendance at the amateur station,

unless the station is:

(a) an amateur repeater station; or

(b) an amateur beacon station; or

(c) an amateur station using automatic mode (including, for example,

packet mode and radioteletype mode); or

(d) an amateur station using computer controlled mode (including, for

example, packet mode and radioteletype mode); or

(e) an amateur station at a remote location.

Clearly the operation of an IRLP/Echolink Node would be covered by section 9c/9d, No licence is required as you already have one your own.
Incidentally section 9e also allows one to have an IRLP/Echolink node at a remote location so all bases are covered. The ACMA have provided this legislation not me

The secret is don’t over complicate things.

Regards

Tony

VK2TS

[VK2AAH]

Sadly Tony your interpretation is trumped by the written correspondence I have from ACMA that says your interpretation is wrong. He gets paid to enforce the rules, neither you nor I do. My suggestion would be to heed those that issue the interpretations for a living.

Today I did what the rest of you should have done as well... written to both the President & Vice President of the WIA and the ACMA requesting that section 9's interpretation be published, preferably in AR.


Richard
VK2AAH

[VK2TS]

Sadly Tony your interpretation is trumped by the written correspondence I have from ACMA that says your interpretation is wrong. He gets paid to enforce the rules, neither you nor I do. My suggestion would be to heed those that issue the interpretations for a living.

Today I did what the rest of you should have done as well... written to both the President & Vice President of the WIA and the ACMA requesting that section 9's interpretation be published, preferably in AR.


Richard
VK2AAH

Well Richard, I assume they will be altering the LCD as that's not what the documentation says. The LCD does not require interpretation as it is plainly documented. They obviously need to read their own documentation. I bet they change it with some other LCD changes in the future. What a joke just another way to raise revenue.

Cheers

[VK4TI]

Sadly Tony your interpretation is trumped by the written correspondence I have from ACMA that says your interpretation is wrong. He gets paid to enforce the rules, neither you nor I do. My suggestion would be to heed those that issue the interpretations for a living.

Today I did what the rest of you should have done as well... written to both the President & Vice President of the WIA and the ACMA requesting that section 9's interpretation be published, preferably in AR.


Richard
VK2AAH

Are you willing to publish a copy of the correspondence here ? , it's quite possible based on past experience being one persons opinion it might be factually in error and needing examination .

[VK2AAH]

Well Tony I read it differently to you and I've spoken to a few people today who also read it differently to you. That doesn't mean you are wrong, but it does indicate that the clause is open to multiple interpretations. And that means it is badly drafted... but arguing about it here isn't going to solve it because we aren't the regulator and trying to get amateurs to agree on most things is worse than herding cats. I'll pass it to more senior, authorised cat herders to deal with.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

[VK2AAH]

Are you willing to publish a copy of the correspondence here ? , it's quite possible based on past experience being one persons opinion it might be factually in error and needing examination .

The answer to that is no, because it was sent in a format that (I suspect deliberately) makes it difficult to forward. Given the seniority of the author my money is on him.

[VK2TS]

Well Tony I read it differently to you and I've spoken to a few people today who also read it differently to you. That doesn't mean you are wrong, but it does indicate that the clause is open to multiple interpretations. And that means it is badly drafted... but arguing about it here isn't going to solve it because we aren't the regulator and trying to get amateurs to agree on most things is worse than herding cats. I'll pass it to more senior, authorised cat herders to deal with.

Cheers

Richard
VK2AAH

You know what Richard it doesn't matter if it is badly drafted that's the documentation and at the moment until they change it is law.

Cheers

[VK4TI]

[/quote]"VK4TI"]Are you willing to publish a copy of the correspondence here ? , it's quite possible based on past experience being one persons opinion it might be factually in error and needing examination

The answer to that is no, because it was sent in a format that (I suspect deliberately) makes it difficult to forward. Given the seniority of the author my money is on him.[/quote]

Everything may be copied if you try so highlight the text and right click copy , sorry but at this point it looks like did not happen without substantiation

[VK2AAH]

Frankly I don't care if you don't believe me... no skin off my nose. Even if I knew how I don't forward correspondence to public forums without the author's consent.

[VK6ADF]

I have not seen this mentioned yet. Whether it answers any questions...................?

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The current version which has slight changes is online here. http://tinyurl.com/kzfvpne

[VK4DU]

Sadly Tony your interpretation is trumped by the written correspondence I have from ACMA that says your interpretation is wrong. He gets paid to enforce the rules, neither you nor I do. My suggestion would be to heed those that issue the interpretations for a living.

Today I did what the rest of you should have done as well... written to both the President & Vice President of the WIA and the ACMA requesting that section 9's interpretation be published, preferably in AR.


Richard
VK2AAH

Thanks Richard,

The ACMA interpretation needs to be published on the WIA website and the ACMA website.

[VK2AAH]

Don't be greedy... if we can get a clear unambiguous answer from ACMA you should be thankful.