Hi all.
Well it had to happen eventually, some little s**t has relabeled transistors as BLF188xr.
See here for my my blurb. https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?thread ... 429/page-2
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Mark
Counterfeit BLF188XR
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
Have had similar issues with the Chinamans audio power transistors. And the Chinamans lm7805's seem rather keen to let out the smoke.....but youse gets whats youse pays for I suppose.
Accept a 50% derating factor and all will be well.......
Accept a 50% derating factor and all will be well.......
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
I bought one of those fake transistors.... you could see the tabs weren't correct and the inkjet part number. I complained that is was a fake and the nice eBay lady gave me my money back. I was even prepared to bride the guys at work in the NDT lab with a packet if Tam-tams to get it x-rayed.
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
sounds cheap and nasty
as they say long after the taste of the sweet deal is gone
you are left with the sour taste and feel a bit conned.
And of course the buyer is never at fault chasing the cheap job
Buyer Beware
If it sounds too good to be true It is
as they say long after the taste of the sweet deal is gone
you are left with the sour taste and feel a bit conned.
And of course the buyer is never at fault chasing the cheap job
Buyer Beware
If it sounds too good to be true It is
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
could send it to lucas heights and get a few more holes drilled in the in the substrate with a short dose of gamma rays like we did with the TRW crap in the AWA BTM2As.VK2EFM wrote:I bought one of those fake transistors.... you could see the tabs weren't correct and the inkjet part number. I complained that is was a fake and the nice eBay lady gave me my money back. I was even prepared to bride the guys at work in the NDT lab with a packet if Tam-tams to get it x-rayed.
73 Allan
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
No. Don't do this. If you do, you simply perpetuate the counterfeiting trade. It's 50% derating now, what happens when somebody tries to make it even cheaper and you need a 75% derating? It's a race to the bottom in all senses of the term.VK5ZLR wrote:Have had similar issues with the Chinamans audio power transistors. And the Chinamans lm7805's seem rather keen to let out the smoke.....but youse gets whats youse pays for I suppose.
Accept a 50% derating factor and all will be well.......
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Buy through a genuine channel (element14/digikey/mouser/etc).
Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
Hi, the transistors I bought weren't cheap either. Just plain and simple fakes. Thankfully there is paypal.
I suspect this is going down the path of requesting a certificate of conformance with the purchase, given the amount of cash involved. >>>> approved suppliers.
73 Allan
I suspect this is going down the path of requesting a certificate of conformance with the purchase, given the amount of cash involved. >>>> approved suppliers.
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Re: Counterfeit BLF188XR
Thanks for those that replied.
Can I ask that buyers of the device post here the No.s on the top.
For example the only No. I have had as a counterfeit part has been ....
Date code, top left. 8623
Batch No. NXP m1327.
I'm interested to know if the fake parts are limited to this these Nos.
The good devices so far has been ..
Date code 3594 and m1339y3
and 7385 m1442.
Also wanting to know if each of the drain terminals have a small nick either side close to the top ( see here http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/- ... image.html )
Would be great if duds had no nick as this would help identifying fakes.
Its my opinion that the sellers may not know they are fake, after all its just one item from thousands of parts available.
It is possible that the duds are not actually dud devices but a good device that has an incorrect label, so when they are driven beyond there ratings they fail.
I also understand that VK hams are only driving their devices to 40% so don't be scared to have your say on the matter.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
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Can I ask that buyers of the device post here the No.s on the top.
For example the only No. I have had as a counterfeit part has been ....
Date code, top left. 8623
Batch No. NXP m1327.
I'm interested to know if the fake parts are limited to this these Nos.
The good devices so far has been ..
Date code 3594 and m1339y3
and 7385 m1442.
Also wanting to know if each of the drain terminals have a small nick either side close to the top ( see here http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/- ... image.html )
Would be great if duds had no nick as this would help identifying fakes.
Its my opinion that the sellers may not know they are fake, after all its just one item from thousands of parts available.
It is possible that the duds are not actually dud devices but a good device that has an incorrect label, so when they are driven beyond there ratings they fail.
I also understand that VK hams are only driving their devices to 40% so don't be scared to have your say on the matter.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
2WHO