VK4DU wrote:If you have a complaint, may I most respectfully suggest that you take it to the ACMA......
WIA representation. We don't have a say, we do what we're told from above.
You still didn't answer the question: What does it achieve for Amateur radio?
More cost, more time, more paperwork and nothing else.
So I'm guessing you don't have an answer either Roger? Do you really want the plebians lobbying Malcolm Turnbull directly?
Because as I said above, we might fvck it up for everybody with just one letter or worse; we might get some attention and get it changed.
Has the WIA the lobbed the minister directly and gone over the ACMA or is the WIA afraid of repercussions from the ACMA if they do?
Because when I decide to get up off my lazy a***, that's what I'm going to do. I don't have to fear the ACMA killing my golden goose.
VK2AAH wrote: Rules get changed by government all the time. I only was on P plates for a year. I suppose changing that rule was corrupt too?
Still not listening to the constituents Richard? Why were the P plate rules changed? For driver and public safety. There was a clear reason given for it and I might suggest some road safety statistics to back it up. The same thing could be said for bicycle helmets, but the statistics suggest that law was ineffectual, yet they don't repeal it.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Rules change over time, that is progress. But I suppose an anarchist hates rules, even logical ones.
Yes I am an anarchist, but nobody ever doubted that. But it's not logical Richard. You can't answer the question either can you?
WHAT BENEFIT HAS THE PRACTICAL EXAM GIVEN TO AMATEUR RADIO.
My answer is: NOTHING (but wasted cost, time & paperwork).
Face it, the hobby will always be prevented from achieving as much as it could not by the unity that the WIA brings, but by the childish arrogance of a vocal few who genuinely believe that the majority are dumb bast@rds who lack their brilliance. Delusional...
If you think that's what we think then it's no wonder you can't see what the problem is.
Have I ever personally attacked Roger or any of the WIA members? No. I've never EVER called them dumb, stupid, delusional or anything even close.
Quite the opposite. I have no doubt they're very thoughtful and calculated and deliberate with their actions.
I'm just pointing out what is wrong:
- That is the practical exam was introduced for no go reason. (They were told to)
- It serves no purpose and continues not to.
- It should be removed from the syllabus.
- This will save time and $75 and it won't make any difference to the operations of the radio spectrum.
The WIA says the ACMA makes them do it.
If WIA thinks the practical exam is of benefit to Amateur Radio, I want to know what that benefit is.
If the WIA knows it is not of any benefit does it care?
If the WIA knows it is not if any benefit does it lobby the ACMA to have it changed?
If the ACMA ignores or dismisses the concern, does the WIA raise the issue to a higher level? (The minister)
But since you don't know what I think Richard, I'll tell you what I think for the correction.
I think: that the WIA towed the line from the ACMA because they were acting in their own AND the hobby's best interests at the time with getting the Foundation licence off the ground.
This came at the expense of the rest of the licensing structure which is now more administratively complex costing more time and money.
The $75 charged for the practical exam is money in the pocket of the WIA. It does not want to change this situation, not that it can't or it just wont.
You might use the word greed to describe it, but I don't. It's a source of income and it's human and corporate behaviour to want to protect it.
So tell me again Richard; What benefit does the practical exam bring to Amateur Radio?
You're answer isn't valid until you've paid my $75 processing fee and I've checked you answer and confirmed you ID and forwarded the answer to the ministry of truth for verification.
Is it not morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money?
VK2AAH wrote:Wayne can you explain why you believe the practical is an "overkill"?
You want to hand me the burden of proof. I accept it.
Before 2005 there was no practical exams. Regardless of the ability to conduct them, which is no different then as it is now. Have they moved the power points closer to the exam papers since 2005?
Has there been a change in operator safety since 2005? Are there now less deaths and injury from Amateur radio use since 2005.
Has there been an increase in Amateur on air traffic since 2005 which we can show is caused by the practical exam being implemented?
Has the noise floor been lowered since 2005?
If the practical exam was removed NOTHING WOULD CHANGE, because nothing changed since it's introduction.
The benefit to Amateur radio is that operators would have $75 more in their pockets and have their licence approved about 2 minutes quicker because the requirement to tick the box would be gone.
How about this.... Amateur Radio would be worse off because the WIA would lose a source of income.
That can't be right can it?
So I hand the burden of proof back to you Richard (and others). What's the benefit?
The cost alone would exclude it, and the trend is away from increased regulation not more regulation, so it is not really worth debating that question.
