Novice - Standard suffix history
Novice - Standard suffix history
Does anyone know roughly when the Novice L, M, P, V suffixes were introduced?
The N suffix was obviously the original one and I know that the H suffixes came in with the Novice Limited class around the late 80s. Does anyone know when the others were introduced? I once saw this detailed somewhere on the net but can't find it now. I skimmed through my old pile of ARA mags and didn't find anything.
The N suffix was obviously the original one and I know that the H suffixes came in with the Novice Limited class around the late 80s. Does anyone know when the others were introduced? I once saw this detailed somewhere on the net but can't find it now. I skimmed through my old pile of ARA mags and didn't find anything.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The Novice licence was introduced in the early 1970s, with the VKxNyy callsign format.
IIRC, the VKxPyy Novice callsign format appeared in the late-1980s.
IIRC, the VKxPyy Novice callsign format appeared in the late-1980s.
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Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
K became before H
VK3NAZ and VK3KAV in Hamilton both about same era
One Novice one Zed plus Novice
2C.
VK3NAZ and VK3KAV in Hamilton both about same era
One Novice one Zed plus Novice
2C.
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Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
I think you will find the VKxPyy series started early 1980's, as I held VK2PGA issued 9-1-1981.
Ross, VK2DVZ
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The VKxKyy callsign format was introduced for the Intermediate licence, some time in the 1980s.
73, Roger Harrison VK2ZRH
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
Hi,
I had VK2PSA in the early 1980s.. 1982 from memory.
Allan
I had VK2PSA in the early 1980s.. 1982 from memory.
Allan
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
hello, VK2N in the 70's VK2V also late 70's then VK2P in the 80's also M I think , The N suffix went pretty quick VK2V came in 1978 ,I passed my novice exam in November 78 and got VK2VFT . so even they were over half allocated by the end of 78. VK2OT.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
This is the most comprehensive description I've found regarding callsign structure. It doesn't specifically answer the question but an interesting read nevertheless.
http://www.ieeeghn.org/wiki/index.php/C ... _Australia
I'm pretty sure there is also a detailed description of the intermediate license structure (K calls etc) but I haven't been able to find it. I think the author of this particular description was based in the US.
http://www.ieeeghn.org/wiki/index.php/C ... _Australia
I'm pretty sure there is also a detailed description of the intermediate license structure (K calls etc) but I haven't been able to find it. I think the author of this particular description was based in the US.
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Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The VKxHyy callsign format was introduced with the Novice Limited licence, around 1995.
73, Roger Harrison VK2ZRH
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
Not bad, although it doesn't explain the numeric state designators (also used for broadcasting and other commercial licences) - these were based on military districts, apparently.VK3ALB wrote:This is the most comprehensive description I've found regarding callsign structure. It doesn't specifically answer the question but an interesting read nevertheless.
http://www.ieeeghn.org/wiki/index.php/C ... _Australia
I'm pretty sure there is also a detailed description of the intermediate license structure (K calls etc) but I haven't been able to find it. I think the author of this particular description was based in the US.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
H call was around early 1994.VK2ZRH wrote:The VKxHyy callsign format was introduced with the Novice Limited licence, around 1995.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
Thanks for the information everyone.
I'm interested in how we identify with our callsigns, hold sentimental attachments (or not at all); the value that people may place on callsigns (eg x2, old timers with original Z, N calls - and wannabes etc ); people hanging onto ancestor's callsigns, and people taking on recycled callsigns -that kind of thing. All the stuff that's been kicked around here for a while.
Late 70s for VK2 V's? I'll have to find some old call books somewhere and see who my predecessor was!
I'm interested in how we identify with our callsigns, hold sentimental attachments (or not at all); the value that people may place on callsigns (eg x2, old timers with original Z, N calls - and wannabes etc ); people hanging onto ancestor's callsigns, and people taking on recycled callsigns -that kind of thing. All the stuff that's been kicked around here for a while.
Late 70s for VK2 V's? I'll have to find some old call books somewhere and see who my predecessor was!
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The VK2 division historian kept a list of all holders of VK2 callsigns. Not sure if he/she still has it.
It made fascinating reading...
The previous owner of my callsign was awarded the DFC as a Lancaster Bomber Navigator in WW2.
It made fascinating reading...
The previous owner of my callsign was awarded the DFC as a Lancaster Bomber Navigator in WW2.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The L calls for Novice class License were being issued as early as mid 1992- when I got my call.
After N suffix, I recall P suffice appearing then other letters became available including L. I didn't fancy N or P suffix but wouldn't have been bothered as long as I got on air!
I did request my callsign suffix and it certainly created some confusion as there was also Limited Class license but instead Novice class holders got access to this letter.
Others immediately thought of the big luxury Ford car - LTD.
After N suffix, I recall P suffice appearing then other letters became available including L. I didn't fancy N or P suffix but wouldn't have been bothered as long as I got on air!
I did request my callsign suffix and it certainly created some confusion as there was also Limited Class license but instead Novice class holders got access to this letter.
Others immediately thought of the big luxury Ford car - LTD.
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
Of more recent history, and unrelated to Novices, is when the first VK#O## got issued (as unrestricted/advanced).
I suspect fairly recently - well into the 2000s. I'm guessing the O suffix was quarantined because of a risk of confusion with the number 0.
Although that didn't stop its use elsewhere.
Another curiousity is the R-series. Initially only for repeaters and beacons some callsigns in this series are now held by individuals as normal
callsigns. Was this a deliberate policy change or administrative error that was thought acceptable to 'let go'?
The only block that remains unallocated seems to be the Qs. Although possibly confusible with Q codes this is of declining relevance and other
countries (eg the US) don't see it as a problem.
I suspect fairly recently - well into the 2000s. I'm guessing the O suffix was quarantined because of a risk of confusion with the number 0.
Although that didn't stop its use elsewhere.
Another curiousity is the R-series. Initially only for repeaters and beacons some callsigns in this series are now held by individuals as normal
callsigns. Was this a deliberate policy change or administrative error that was thought acceptable to 'let go'?
The only block that remains unallocated seems to be the Qs. Although possibly confusible with Q codes this is of declining relevance and other
countries (eg the US) don't see it as a problem.
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Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
The VK*K** series for intermediate licensees (actually in those days it was more commonly called a 'combination' license, because the holder held both novice privileges and VHF/UHF privileges, separately) was around in 1982 (but not much earlier) 'cause I was allocated VK3KWX in early 1982.
The VK*V** series for novices was introduced very early 1979. I was allocated VK3NWX in February, 1979 and the 'V' series began only a few weeks later.
The series VK*C** was originally issued only to those who ventured all around Australia for employment purposes (military people, for instance) - i was allocated VK3CEW in May, 1982, and was told I was the first (in VK3) to be issued a 'C' suffix call as a regular full call.
Ernie VK3FM
The VK*V** series for novices was introduced very early 1979. I was allocated VK3NWX in February, 1979 and the 'V' series began only a few weeks later.
The series VK*C** was originally issued only to those who ventured all around Australia for employment purposes (military people, for instance) - i was allocated VK3CEW in May, 1982, and was told I was the first (in VK3) to be issued a 'C' suffix call as a regular full call.
Ernie VK3FM
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
I recall reading some years back (10-15?) that someone had been given a special callsign (not VK prefix) "for services to amateur radio".
I can't remember who or what the call was.
I can't remember who or what the call was.
Damien VK3RX
Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
VK2VEL 1979 callbook
R.S Smith
29 Corea st
Sylvania nsw
Heaps of "V" in 1979 for VK2 in callbook
VK2VOR is the last one listed.
vk6six
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R.S Smith
29 Corea st
Sylvania nsw
Heaps of "V" in 1979 for VK2 in callbook
VK2VOR is the last one listed.
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Re: Novice - Standard suffix history
My first call was VK3VAW issued January 1979, my next call was VK3KMA issued sometime in 1984.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
73 Mike